Forum | Thinking With Portals

#51 · June 11, 2011, 11:51 pm

Quote from Sword of Apollo on June 11, 2011, 11:51 pm
lifeson99 wrote:

I am stuck early and I am not ashamed - I just am. I can't kill the 2nd turret. [spoiler]When I jump over the lasers I am right there about 10 feet in front of him and he fires away. I tried jumping, zig-zagging . . . and of course I tried to bum rush him . . . all to no avail. I tried the Book just in case it had magical powers - but no.[/spoiler]

Then I did the notarget cheat to get past him and got stuck immediately again . . . with the giant room above me and nothing but Glass to shoot at. The white walls only go up to a level 3 feet below the ledge, and there is no way I can see to fling up there.

Hint on turret: [spoiler]The cube is not a companion cube, but for the first part of the map, it pretty much could have been.[/spoiler]

Hint on getting to the higher level: [spoiler]A common requirement of solving puzzles in Portal is using previous rooms/spaces as a part of a strategy to tackle the current room. If a puzzle in a Portal map seems impossible, it is likely because you are not keeping in mind what came before.[/spoiler]
Furthermore: [spoiler]You'll note that the fizzlers in the hallway don't go all the way to the ceiling.[/spoiler]

By the way, lifeson99, I should mention that this map only gets harder from here. I don't know whether you have played Portal: The Flash Version, but if you haven't fairly recently, I would suggest at least playing through that before you attempt to go any further in Take-Off. When I mention in the Readme that players should have completed both Portal, and Portal: TFV (at a mininimum) prior to playing my map, I wasn't kidding around. Portal: Prelude is helpful experience, too, (though you will likely want to cheat past certain parts where most of the difficulty is in the execution, rather than the figuring out of the puzzle.)

Colonel_Cthulu wrote:

I went back into it and tried to see if i could figure it out... but i couldn't.

I appreciate you giving me hints, instead of full out telling me what to do, so i have a few questions:

1. [spoiler]Did the radio in the Blue water room have any significance? At first i thought that taking it to a certain area would cause some sort of intereference, like it was with the Portal ARG, but all i could find is that taking it close to the fizzlers causes interference.[/spoiler]

2. [spoiler]Do you have to do something with the planetarium? My first time around i detached and threw every planet into the middle area but found it didnt do anything so i didnt bother with it this time[/spoiler]

3. [spoiler]Does the solution to the colored orbs involve placing them in their respective rooms or along the rainbow money arch?[/spoiler]

I really enjoy the intricacy of this map and am looking forward to any future maps you make

1. [spoiler]Puzzle-wise, no.[/spoiler]
2. [spoiler]No. Once you find the book in any given secret, there are no more puzzles there. The book is the goal.[/spoiler]
3. [spoiler]Respective rooms.[/spoiler]

lifeson99 wrote:

I am stuck early and I am not ashamed - I just am. I can't kill the 2nd turret.

Spoiler

When I jump over the lasers I am right there about 10 feet in front of him and he fires away. I tried jumping, zig-zagging . . . and of course I tried to bum rush him . . . all to no avail. I tried the Book just in case it had magical powers - but no.

Then I did the notarget cheat to get past him and got stuck immediately again . . . with the giant room above me and nothing but Glass to shoot at. The white walls only go up to a level 3 feet below the ledge, and there is no way I can see to fling up there.

Hint on turret:

Spoiler

The cube is not a companion cube, but for the first part of the map, it pretty much could have been.

Hint on getting to the higher level:

Spoiler

A common requirement of solving puzzles in Portal is using previous rooms/spaces as a part of a strategy to tackle the current room. If a puzzle in a Portal map seems impossible, it is likely because you are not keeping in mind what came before.

Furthermore:

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You'll note that the fizzlers in the hallway don't go all the way to the ceiling.

By the way, lifeson99, I should mention that this map only gets harder from here. I don't know whether you have played Portal: The Flash Version, but if you haven't fairly recently, I would suggest at least playing through that before you attempt to go any further in Take-Off. When I mention in the Readme that players should have completed both Portal, and Portal: TFV (at a mininimum) prior to playing my map, I wasn't kidding around. Portal: Prelude is helpful experience, too, (though you will likely want to cheat past certain parts where most of the difficulty is in the execution, rather than the figuring out of the puzzle.)

Colonel_Cthulu wrote:

I went back into it and tried to see if i could figure it out... but i couldn't.

I appreciate you giving me hints, instead of full out telling me what to do, so i have a few questions:

1.

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Did the radio in the Blue water room have any significance? At first i thought that taking it to a certain area would cause some sort of intereference, like it was with the Portal ARG, but all i could find is that taking it close to the fizzlers causes interference.

2.

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Do you have to do something with the planetarium? My first time around i detached and threw every planet into the middle area but found it didnt do anything so i didnt bother with it this time

3.

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Does the solution to the colored orbs involve placing them in their respective rooms or along the rainbow money arch?

I really enjoy the intricacy of this map and am looking forward to any future maps you make

1.

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Puzzle-wise, no.

2.

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No. Once you find the book in any given secret, there are no more puzzles there. The book is the goal.

3.

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Respective rooms.

#52 · June 12, 2011, 3:52 pm

I finally realized what i had to do with the balls:

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I originally saw that the purple orb flashed when i dropped it into the purple pit, but i first thought that it was a graphical glitch, until i took another orb to its color room and saw that the flashing had rhythm to it.

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Now i have free the giant coconut and, im assuming this is the part that you said was really difficult to execute, cause that thing is a bitch to push/portal around.

EDIT: I just saw that 1.4 was uploaded i will download it and see what i can do

EDIT 2:

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Yup. Now im stuck on the Greek puzzle. I have all 4 plates in but apart from the general idea that you are supposed to map each symbol to a letter, i am confused. I thought that maybe only one of the symbols were the ones you are supposed to use and the rest are red herrings, but i found that 2 of the symbols have 5 symbols each on the plates and the other two have 7 symbols each, excluding the Corner symbols that im am leaning towards thinking that they are decorative or some kind of legend.
Also i really hope i dont have to go back and put those Blue and red vases somewhere cause my attention span is not large enough for that.

#53 · June 15, 2011, 2:45 pm

Mind consuming map! Deep thinking and a nice result. I am now after the secrets.

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Stuck in red orb (how to activate it?). I've jumping at the dollar at the ceiling but could not get it

. Thanks for the fun.

#54 · June 16, 2011, 1:18 am

stubUg wrote:

Mind consuming map! Deep thinking and a nice result. I am now after the secrets.

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Stuck in red orb (how to activate it?). I've jumping at the dollar at the ceiling but could not get it

. Thanks for the fun.

Could you be more specific?
Have you completed the color pattern, and are you talking about the orbs you obtain after inputting it correctly?

#55 · June 16, 2011, 4:08 pm

Hi!, yes.

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I was droping the orbs on the corresponding colour rooms, but while 2 of them got activated, orange, red and green had to be placed inside some light holding structures. I just could not see the way in the red chamber. I changed my monitor's gamma value and then I found it

. Sorry, as soon as I realized I could be wrong I have edited this message, for some reason I assumed you had finished the map and the spoiler was way past my last checkpoint. I hope you finished it or haven't already looked at the previous spoiler. In any case my question now is

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after getting the four books and opening the door I get the piece of cake award, must it be taken somewhere?

.

#56 · June 16, 2011, 6:41 pm

stubUg wrote:

Hi!, yes.

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I was droping the orbs on the corresponding colour rooms, but while 2 of them got activated, orange, red and green had to be placed inside some light holding structures. I just could not see the way in the red chamber. I changed my monitor's gamma value and then I found it

. Sorry, as soon as I realized I could be wrong I have edited this message, for some reason I assumed you had finished the map and the spoiler was way past my last checkpoint. I hope you finished it or haven't already looked at the previous spoiler. In any case my question now is

Spoiler

after getting the four books and opening the door I get the piece of cake award, must it be taken somewhere?

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I did not finish it i got stuck on the greek puzzle with the 4 glass plates, i have placed them but cannot decipher the puzzle, if you could help me with that

#57 · June 17, 2011, 5:23 am

Colonel_Cthulu wrote:

stubUg wrote:

Hi!, yes.

Spoiler

I was droping the orbs on the corresponding colour rooms, but while 2 of them got activated, orange, red and green had to be placed inside some light holding structures. I just could not see the way in the red chamber. I changed my monitor's gamma value and then I found it

. Sorry, as soon as I realized I could be wrong I have edited this message, for some reason I assumed you had finished the map and the spoiler was way past my last checkpoint. I hope you finished it or haven't already looked at the previous spoiler. In any case my question now is

Spoiler

after getting the four books and opening the door I get the piece of cake award, must it be taken somewhere?

.

I did not finish it i got stuck on the greek puzzle with the 4 glass plates, i have placed them but cannot decipher the puzzle, if you could help me with that

I also spent some time deciphering the Greek puzzle, some clues:

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besides the plate (observatory) you can place in the holder, which I couldn't perfectly fit but ok, you will need the information from the others (F5 key is helpful here). The four symbols at the display corners tell you the row and column to read each entry (you just need to care about the six symbols at the gate). The lack of grid lines in the plates don't help.

.

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Lately I have realized you can actually take the plates to the Greek room

, so I did it the hard way!.

#58 · June 17, 2011, 11:21 pm

I am absolutely stumped. Not on the main puzzle, that was a piece of cake, so to speak. The secrets, though... I was able to get the first 2 books

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(one in the large room, of course), and one where the entrance is under the laser floor near the beginning.

The rest, though, is very well hidden. I refuse to use noclip until I rule out every possibility of it not being on top of the large "building" in the energy ball room. Any help, locations?

#59 · June 18, 2011, 8:01 am

breakingspell wrote:

I am absolutely stumped. Not on the main puzzle, that was a piece of cake, so to speak. The secrets, though... I was able to get the first 2 books

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(one in the large room, of course), and one where the entrance is under the laser floor near the beginning.

The rest, though, is very well hidden. I refuse to use noclip until I rule out every possibility of it not being on top of the large "building" in the energy ball room. Any help, locations?

Location 1:

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Look upwards from the last button platform. there is a spot to place a portal. Take a look from there...

#60 · June 18, 2011, 11:04 pm

Oh goody. Thanks a bunch!

Edit:

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Got the third book, and raised the planetarium (whatever that does). Also triggered the orange portal and released the purple plate from the wall. I left the book in the red room, assuming that orange portal is a shortcut.

I'm all but certain the last secret is on top of the structure in the energy ball room. Using that fling that sends you over the cleanser, while shooting a portal on the inclines facing the structure, and onto that landing strip-looking platform from before, i've almost made it several times. The furthest i've made it is on top of the small outcrop of the second-to-last button.( http://steamcommunity.com/id/breakingspell/screenshot/578926032569463737 )

Am i doing it right?

Edit 2: Gave up, and noclipped over to it.

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As for the color combination, i based it on both the room order, and the number of vases in each room (not vase cases). I got it as follows, in room order, with vase count.

Violet=2 Yellow=0 Green=0 blue-ish=1 Orange=3 Red=4

Putting this in any coherent combination (room order, vase count with green and yellow as guesses), does nothing. I see no orbs, do i have to backtrack to recieve them?

I just noticed in the room immediately before the lift to the color buttons, each color is laid out, with a vase on top of the ones that i've noticed do have vases, with the green and yellow $ signs lacking one. Just like my initial count

And is there any significance to this room i just found (noclipped at first, but there is a legit way to get in here). http://steamcommunity.com/id/breakingsp ... 2569718787