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Pitkakorvaa wrote:
Thats the point, if you can't vote all sections, then you can't vote at all, and that way we get rid of "worthless 5/5" rated maps.

I don't understand. What do you mean by "if you can't vote all sections"? Do you mean "If you don't feel ready to vote for the puzzle section because you haven't solved it" for example? Because this would mean that everyone has to stick to this guideline voluntarily - which imho wouldn't happen in an anonymous rating-system.

Every single player will always have his/her own subjective opinion of a map no matter how many subcategories there are.

lpfreaky90 wrote:
It would be great to see more feedback on maps. This way people can really improve their mapping skills and in the future this might lead to more "real" 5/5 maps :D

The only way to get more feedback and also push the numer of votes would be to force people to register before they can download. On the other hand, that might cause a drop in number of downloads of course.

Or is it that you guys only want "pro-mappers" - whatever makes a pro-mapper - to rate the maps instead of everyone? Then, there'd have be some sort of committee of chosen members rating the maps. On the other hand - isn't that what the community round-up is supposed to be?

zivi7 wrote:
The only way to get more feedback and also push the numer of votes would be to force people to register before they can download. On the other hand, that might cause a drop in number of downloads of course.

Or is it that you guys only want "pro-mappers" - whatever makes a pro-mapper - to rate the maps instead of everyone? Then, there'd have be some sort of committee of chosen members rating the maps. On the other hand - isn't that what the community round-up is supposed to be?

Well I think detailed feedback isn't what non-registered users would give. It's more a request for mappers to help other mappers. And people who don't map but also have attention for detail and puzzles can of course also give detailed feedback. I would just urge all mappers here just to take a minute of their time to help other users by posting a bit of feedback!

And yes the community round-up is supposed to be the best maps; usually those are the 5/5 maps ;)

NuclearDuckie wrote:
..we could also do with a couple of decimal places shown on the displayed score.

That's actually a pretty good idea, even a single decimal point would make it much clearer that a map has, say 4.9 or even 5.0 versus a 4.5 which might still be rounded up. It would be the easiest solution to implement, doesn't require any extra action or work on the part of someone who might otherwise not really bother rating all that much (Eg. me.), and make it a little clearer for all.

Even if a system rating the form vs function of a map, with multiple sections were implemented, you'd still get some of the same problems people have with the current rating system though. Fair enough, pretty is pretty, and if a map looks really damn slick, it'll probably get a 5/5 all round, but the puzzle element is likely to be the same mixed bag we already have owing to differing tastes.

I can't help but think some people are just pissed off that some of my crappy looking, 2-day maps for example are scoring 4-5, while they've put a fuckton of work and time into making them look really good - but can only possibly score a 5 as well. If I'd put weeks worth of work into a map and gave a damn about aesthetics, I might be pretty sour about the whole thing.

msleeper wrote:
I'm not sure what you want me to say. I can't fix it. I've tried, the voting code is all over the place. The download system sucks, we'll be rid of it soon.

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nufsaid

when in doubt, a wizard did it

Just when I think I understand the system, it changes on me.

If you want a good community to model after, just look at tf2maps.net. Friendly community with lots of tutorials, but they will tell you if your map is shit.

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