Quote from Skerik on September 21, 2011, 1:54 pm

Nice one! I try for a long time [spoiler]to to make big jump and go back in the first room by jumping high enough to pass upper than the fizzler until I found another solution that was much more easier![/spoiler]

Quote from Djinndrache on September 21, 2011, 2:45 pm

I did "not really" need the funnel. I accidentally used it, but I'm almost sure that I didn't need it. I'll post again when the video file is ready.

Quote from Vordwann on September 21, 2011, 4:53 pm

I didn't use the funnel at all. It was a fairly smart puzzle, despite a few overlapping models/brushes and no cubemaps.

Quote from Random on September 21, 2011, 5:42 pm

Aesthetics-wise, the lighting was good, but for such an open space the textures seemed a bit repetitive in that main room... and you either didn't make cubemaps or forgot to build them. EDIT: you definitely forgot to build them because they worked if I built them myself... did you change the name of the file before uploading it?
Neither did I use the funnel at all. You could easily make it necessary to use by [spoiler]making the gel not spray that far; it really never had to in the puzzle.[/spoiler] or cut it out entirely.
It took a few tries for the cube [spoiler]to bounce out of the area. The first few times it just bounced around and stopped near the back or into the water anyway. Not sure if there is anything you can do to fix that.[/spoiler]
No noteworthy problems other than that, it was a decent play.

Quote from shawy89 on September 21, 2011, 5:45 pm

Thanks for the comments. Not sure what the problem with the cubemaps is, there's one in every room.

As for the funnel, I really tried to make it necessary but whatever I did it always seemed like it was possible to skip it somehow. I thought I had fixed it but I guess not.

EDIT: @Random, it actually wasn't me that compiled the final version of the map. I'm not actually sure how to build cupemaps, I just thought I place an env_cubemap in every room and that's fine? Everything looks perfectly fine for me.

Quote from Random on September 21, 2011, 6:10 pm

I see. You need to load up the map and type "buildcubemaps" in the console. It wasn't noticeable for most of the map, but I kept getting errors in the console about it, and it was very noticeable in the elevator rooms and the tube where there were many reflective surfaces.

Quote from iWork925 on September 21, 2011, 7:43 pm

Yeah I am going the have to agree with you about the textures. I tried my best with making it more, portally..? But shawy just a certain tool a little to often, and made it quite difficult to texture properly. But lets not get caught up in semantics, in comparrison to 10 testchambers I think this map look awesome.

Yeah, I forgot to build cubemaps. Big whoop wanna fight about it? Anyway I think shawy might reupload with the cubemaps soon. But if it really bothers you, you can type buildcubempas into the console and it should work out fine for you.

Regarding the fizzler, if you didnt use it, good for you. Finding alternative or 'personal' solutions to puzzles is part of the fun. As many expeirenced mappers say, maps with "one true solution" are quite annoying. Maps need to have a certain amount of non-linear 'playground' appeal. Makes the player think; "I can do whatever I want in here, but I'll need to connect that laser up if I want to get outta here." Maps were you are forced through a series of arduous activitys to complete it feels like more a chore. The map is what it is, take it or leave it.

And about that cube of yours; I don't know how you managed to make a cube covered in blue gel... stop. But congratulations. I was unable to reproduce this effect and I am therefore unable to help you get it resolved. I believe blue gel cube will not stop bouncing under any circumstance until it is clean, or am I mistaken?

Anyway, thanks for the comments! Really appreicate it.

Quote from Vordwann on September 21, 2011, 8:32 pm

Just a small point: When you close the emancipation grills in the first room part of their model sticks through the brush. Other than that, a few more texture variations and it would look complete. The big chamber may have been a little too big, but it worked. I didn't use any of the disc. field portal surfaces or the funnel, and (solution question) [spoiler]was I supposed to stand on the laser cube back in the first room to be able to jump into a portal shot on the surface with a target on it?[/spoiler]

Quote from iWork925 on September 21, 2011, 8:59 pm

Vordwann wrote:

Just a small point: When you close the emancipation grills in the first room part of their model sticks through the brush.

Mainly attributed to the brush work by shawy. The wall there is only about 14 units think. The model I believe is about 32 units thick. You can draw your own conclusions from that. As I stated previously; as this is his first map, lets not dwell on semantics.

Vordwann wrote:

Other than that, a few more texture variations and it would look complete. The big chamber may have been a little too big, but it worked.

We were not going for a "complete" look. We understand there are serious visual flaws with this map. It would be more beneficial for shawy to put the lessons he has learnt from this map into creating a new one rather then aimlessly fixing his first, which for most mappers, first isnt best.

Vordwann wrote:

I didn't use any of the disc. field portal surfaces or the funnel

Vordwann wrote:

[spoiler]was I supposed to stand on the laser cube back in the first room to be able to jump into a portal shot on the surface with a target on it?[/spoiler]

Yes.