Quote from carlymx on July 28, 2011, 7:32 pm

New version v1.1c

Quote from carlymx on August 2, 2011, 6:08 am

Update Final Version v1.2:
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improved and amplied the puzzle.
Fixed Bugs.
Fixed Cheats.

I hope you like my first map.

Quote from xdiesp on August 2, 2011, 10:48 am

carlymx wrote:

Update Final Version v1.2:
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improved and amplied the puzzle.
Fixed Bugs.
Fixed Cheats.

I hope you like my first map.

Well done with all the fixes. One question: if you get to the 2nd room, use both portals so you don't have the funnel anymore, can you still pass the broken bridge?

Quote from carlymx on August 2, 2011, 6:39 pm

xdiesp wrote:

Well done with all the fixes. One question: if you get to the 2nd room, use both portals so you don't have the funnel anymore, can you still pass the broken bridge?

No, not possible (AFAIK), try a simple way to fix it but could not, all seemed very complicated to do. It's a price to be paid because of people cheating.

So just before going to the second room makes a "save game"

anyway I think it's okay, maybe more to solve this problem before but before other maps are the same or even more difficult xDDDDD

Quote from lifeson99 on August 6, 2011, 5:25 am

I did not think a map could be "too hard" since I assumed the harder it is - the better.

Stunning, amazing, intricate . . . but this map is too hard. There are numerous areas that you have to either be a genius to figure out, or get lucky, or fly around in NoClip mode aimlessly.

For example, the Laser in the 2nd room:
[spoiler]1) the sensor is completely hidden and not only is it hidden, but it is an all-black square, so there is no way I would have ever recognized it as a laser receiver.
2) you have to put the two portals so that the laser exits the 2nd portal - goes back into the first portal and changes direction to exit the 2nd portal again. Very cool concept but impossible for 99% of the players to figure out IMO - especially since you have no idea there is a laser sensor there.[/spoiler]

Then there are those very high upper floors that you are required to have knowledge of.
I don't know - I see a couple of the resident Portal Experts figured it out, but even after watching the solution I saw many things that for me at least, are simply impossible to figure out without watching the walkjthrough. I ended up NoClipping and still could not solve this, as I flew around and pressed buttons. It's as if the author tried to hide and conceal EVERYTHING in every step of the solution. As if during the making of this, at each step he asked himself . . . "hmmm, how can I make this step extremely difficult to figure out". And then after making it extremely difficult - re-evaluated whether or not there was a way to make that step even more difficult.

I liked the part where [spoiler]you go back to the first room to retrieve the cube - that was fun and very cool - the timer was over generous but it did not matter. I found it surprising that when I brought the cube back and took it upstairs, that the floor cube square button turned the checkmark into an X instead of turning thew X into a checkmar[/spoiler]k.

I also like the look and feel of the surfaces - shiny Black and White everywhere. Very clean - like a Gameroom.

So, overall I appreciate it as a huge effort but it is a 384-step Japanese Puzzle box which most cannot get through. I got through the first level then after a few hours I quit in the 2nd level. It became very frustrating.

Quote from carlymx on August 8, 2011, 7:06 pm

lifeson99 Thank you for your comments.

If it is not a map for beginners. I realized that all the maps considered "difficult" really just were complicated because the stunts were difficult to make or has hidden his puzzles. were not very logical puzzles.

Then I played "Engineer v1" I find it so amazing (very logical and very difficult) I decided to make an extremely difficult but logical puzzle.

I have only 2 questions:

1: The laser sensor does not actually meets the eye?

[spoiler][/spoiler]

2: You told actually 384 steps to solve the puzzle?

A Greeting.

PD: I am preparing a new walkjthrough the latest version when ready to climb the post.

Quote from xdiesp on August 8, 2011, 8:30 pm

lifeson99 wrote:

I got through the first level then after a few hours I quit in the 2nd level

I think Distracted by Love took me almost two hours as well, you should check that one out.

Quote from Ruien on August 27, 2011, 9:42 am

This was an absolutely excellent map. My favorite map by far! I had been busy recently and only just now tried it, and spectacular - a true masterpiece.

After solving the puzzle (it took me 4 hours!), I watched the walkthrough video. Our solutions were quite different in some places, so this puzzle still retains some multiple solutions.

One interesting note regarding the portal surface above the timed door that takes you back to the first room where the Companion Cube is waiting: this portal surface is unnecessary. I never even realized it was there.

Also, I ended up burning a lot of time because I did not realize that the light bridge remained on after the laser was removed from the relay. I thought that it had to stay there, and was working to get the companion cube into the button pit without touching the redirection cube (don't try it; it's impossible).

In any case, these are minor, minor things. Your map was phenomenal, entertaining, and just the right difficulty to be interesting but not frustrating. Your logical puzzles were well-thought-out and did not fail reason. Your father would be proud.

Regards, and thank you for a great map,
Ryan

Quote from carlymx on August 29, 2011, 11:00 am

Ruien wrote:

This was an absolutely excellent map. My favorite map by far! I had been busy recently and only just now tried it, and spectacular - a true masterpiece.
...
Ryan

Ryan Thanks for your feedback and support, the trap to get the cube company has already been solved easily (thanks for comment).

I look forward to do another chamber to enjoy as much as the first.

a Greeting

UPDATES:
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Update Final Version v1.3:
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improved and amplied the puzzle.
Fixed Bugs: Overlays any defective.
Fixed Cheats: Fixed a possible trap that can catch bucket companion effortlessly.