[SP] Devil's Chamber
Quote from HeadShot on November 19, 2011, 7:52 pmJust finished it! I deviated from the book solution when transporting the solid cube in the mid game, but other than that it was straight forward. Nice clean solution without any of the evilness of seven gates
keep it up buddy. Just saw your new one Beamchain, time to get busy! Then the coop Complexo... Any other jonatan vets who haven't done the coop interested in tackling it with me?
Just finished it! I deviated from the book solution when transporting the solid cube in the mid game, but other than that it was straight forward. Nice clean solution without any of the evilness of seven gates
keep it up buddy. Just saw your new one Beamchain, time to get busy! Then the coop Complexo... Any other jonatan vets who haven't done the coop interested in tackling it with me?
Quote from Yorgn on November 28, 2011, 7:40 amjonatan wrote:Yep, that's pretty much what I had in mind, except for a variation in one of the steps (see video). Could not find a really good way to force this alternate, more complicated solution though. I probably will leave it as it is.Edit: [spoiler]I could of course move the bridge receptor a bit to the left to the wall below the glass facing the exit so that a laser from any of the buttons can't reach it... Or position the buttons to the left below the cube dropper. Something to consider.[/spoiler]
I noticed you DID change the map to force your solution. I am guessing you will be sadistically happy to know it does make a big difference, as it took me an hour or so more to find it (had everything figured out, which took me long enough already, except that specific step of [spoiler]redirecting the laser through the cube on the ligthbridge before destroying the normal cube. As a result I was unable to nring back the new nromal cube to the other side[/spoiler]. For me this was the hardest part in an already hard series of steps, so you got what you wanted!
This was an awesome map, however I'm saying this only because I did manage to solve it, otherwise I would probably damn you to hell
. But I enjoyed the fact that it is hard to figure out, but not too hard to execute once you do, except perhaps [spoiler]the sequence of moving the cube with the funnel[/spoiler]. A slightly more generous timer would help there, but perhaps you don't want to change that.
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I noticed you DID change the map to force your solution. I am guessing you will be sadistically happy to know it does make a big difference, as it took me an hour or so more to find it (had everything figured out, which took me long enough already, except that specific step of
This was an awesome map, however I'm saying this only because I did manage to solve it, otherwise I would probably damn you to hell
. But I enjoyed the fact that it is hard to figure out, but not too hard to execute once you do, except perhaps
Quote from PCdoc on December 11, 2011, 6:45 pmThe map has been changed with v1.1 - both buttons have been moved off to the left - blocking your ability to hit the laser sensor on the other side directly. You no longer can get [spoiler]back across after moving the one laser cube into the far room and coming back over.[/spoiler]
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All of the Video solutions, including jonaton's require this. It does seem that there comes a point when hard as hell is hard enough.[spoiler]I did find a way to activate the bridge by using the far laser cube with a very tricky placement in the corner and aiming the main cube towards that cube. However, the 14-second timer was just too short for me to get back, move the cube to turn on the beam, and then get the laser cube past the fizzler. If that timer was 16 secs I would have made it.[/spoiler]
Honestly - I spent 2 days on Enigma, only to have newer and then newer versions appear . . . then 8 hours yesterday on 7 gates (to no avail), and then hours on this only to find that the video solutions no longer apply . . . so it has been frustrating, but quite a challenge.
NOTE: I do love Quadro, and saved that one in my "Best Maps" folder. It is the only one I solved by myself with no clues.
Addendum - I will replay this map using the tips offered below. I hope to finally solve it !!
The map has been changed with v1.1 - both buttons have been moved off to the left - blocking your ability to hit the laser sensor on the other side directly. You no longer can get
All of the Video solutions, including jonaton's require this. It does seem that there comes a point when hard as hell is hard enough.
Honestly - I spent 2 days on Enigma, only to have newer and then newer versions appear . . . then 8 hours yesterday on 7 gates (to no avail), and then hours on this only to find that the video solutions no longer apply . . . so it has been frustrating, but quite a challenge.
NOTE: I do love Quadro, and saved that one in my "Best Maps" folder. It is the only one I solved by myself with no clues.
Addendum - I will replay this map using the tips offered below. I hope to finally solve it !!
Quote from jonatan on February 4, 2012, 4:43 pmPCDoc, my video solution still holds with some minor adjustments:
[spoiler]At 0:41: Place one cube on laserbutton the other one redirect laser to bridge receptor. (Don't bother pushing open the panel at this point.)
At 0:52: Shoot a portal in the left room instead. Go in it and redirect laser to open fizzler to get out cube. You are now at the position of the video solution.
At 2:15: Notice how I get to the bridge receptor. This still works in the new version.
At 2:59: Use the relay instead of the cube to get some extra height.[/spoiler]
PCDoc, my video solution still holds with some minor adjustments:
At 0:52: Shoot a portal in the left room instead. Go in it and redirect laser to open fizzler to get out cube. You are now at the position of the video solution.
At 2:15: Notice how I get to the bridge receptor. This still works in the new version.
At 2:59: Use the relay instead of the cube to get some extra height.
Quote from macko68 on February 13, 2012, 7:26 pmJonatan this test is AMAZING. I played majority of your maps and this is the best from your work so far (though Complexo, Seven Gates are also epic). Spent couple of hours but this was great time. Relatively small room and seemingly impossible task. I think that moving the buttons has made it even better. I wouldn`t change a single thing in this creation. You are a genious !!!!
Jonatan this test is AMAZING. I played majority of your maps and this is the best from your work so far (though Complexo, Seven Gates are also epic). Spent couple of hours but this was great time. Relatively small room and seemingly impossible task. I think that moving the buttons has made it even better. I wouldn`t change a single thing in this creation. You are a genious !!!!
