Quote from Stephenishere on March 26, 2012, 6:04 am

I'm the one who recorded the solution play-through with Nautik.

This is a fun level for people who like some reflex play. Nothing too crazy, but it will take a few try's to get the concepts taught in each puzzle room. I honestly think it is beyond WIP status, as it is very polished and well made. I hope everyone enjoys his level, it'll be pretty hard for first time, blind play-through groups.

Quote from Lpfreaky90 on March 26, 2012, 8:52 am

Zivi7 and I just played this. Puzzles 1-4 are perfectly fine but 5 was just too hardcore for me.
At the end we:

(Had to steal it iWork )

zivi pulled of the fling a couple of times but for me 3 was just too fast.
Also the details in 1-4 are great; 4 feels off theme wise. We didn't experience any lag. Adding texture variation could also help with orientation; making the map easier to pull off.

I can't really give a rating for this at the moment because 1-2 felt really simple and had the feeling you could also solve this in singleplayer.
3 was great
4 was hard but doable (please move the respawn a bit closer?
5 was too difficult; died very often (and again we had to walk a long way)

So I guess there's still room for improvements

Quote from zivi7 on March 26, 2012, 9:04 am

LP said everything there is to say.

Let me just add this suggestion: In 4, move the spawn tubes directly in front of the two fling-cages. In 5, move the spawn tubes at least to that high area from where you can overlook the whole area. Even better - but I don't know if that's possible - would be if the spawn tubes could be sperated and placed directly down there where the players have to start the flinging.

Those two sections can take a lot of retries, therefore it would be great if the players have to walk as few steps as possible.

Quote from Stephenishere on March 26, 2012, 7:54 pm

I reconverted the play through video with better codecs, here is the link for the updated youtube video. http://youtu.be/156vl7Mj77E?hd=1

Quote from Insomnautik on March 27, 2012, 1:51 am

Thanks for the play through guys, glad to hear there aren't lag issues so far. Wasn't sure how far i could take the detailing before causing problems.

If i could figure out how to add simple spawn tubes to the ceiling at the main point of each puzzle that disables the airlock spawn on trigger I will. (The airlocks are a prefab downloaded from here actually). Any suggestions on how to do this would be helpful, otherwise i'm sure i'll stumble on a tutorial for it soon enough.

As for simplicity on the first two levels, unless your talking about using an object(cube or something) I'm pretty sure there isn't any way to solve them by your self. If you can find a solo techniquie to any of the levels do let me know, i'll have to fix that right away. The simplicity is really just to give you the idea of how the upcoming puzzles are going to work. With puzzle 5 being hard enough to be its own puzzle, the first 4 merely serve to get you ready without inducing rage right in the beginning.

Anyways though, thanks for the playthrough guys and I hope more people have a chance to let me know what they think. Sorry if I induced too much rage

Quote from Lpfreaky90 on March 27, 2012, 9:15 am

Insomnautik wrote:

Thanks for the play through guys, glad to hear there aren't lag issues so far. Wasn't sure how far i could take the detailing before causing problems.

Your area portals fix that nicely

Insomnautik wrote:

If i could figure out how to add simple spawn tubes to the ceiling at the main point of each puzzle that disables the airlock spawn on trigger I will. (The airlocks are a prefab downloaded from here actually). Any suggestions on how to do this would be helpful, otherwise i'm sure i'll stumble on a tutorial for it soon enough.

I can take a look at that. if you want. Can't promise anything since I haven't even made a coop level yet but I'm sure I can give it a go

Insomnautik wrote:

As for simplicity on the first two levels, unless your talking about using an object(cube or something) I'm pretty sure there isn't any way to solve them by your self. If you can find a solo techniquie to any of the levels do let me know, i'll have to fix that right away. The simplicity is really just to give you the idea of how the upcoming puzzles are going to work. With puzzle 5 being hard enough to be its own puzzle, the first 4 merely serve to get you ready without inducing rage right in the beginning.

No; but if it weren't for the glass at certain sides of the cages it would've been possible

Insomnautik wrote:

Anyways though, thanks for the playthrough guys and I hope more people have a chance to let me know what they think. Sorry if I induced too much rage

You're welcome.

Quote from Insomnautik on March 27, 2012, 12:06 pm

I do find it ironic that the first two levels, which seem like they can be done by your self actually can't. However, the third puzzle CAN be solved with just one person. I just found the break last night and am working on a fix for it. Its quite a challenge to pull it off with one person so I'm wondering if an exploit that is that hard should even be prevented, or maybe left in for some interesting speedrun videos.

Also, i tried the chambers with a cube... its too bad physics objects loose momentum when going back and forth between floor portals but players do not. At least not nearly as much. You can hit the ceiling buttons about 8-9 times before loosing too much momentum to hit them anymore where a cube/sphere will only hit a button once and then be useless. Not to mention half the times it goes flying in every direction.

@Ipfreaky90 - I'll send you a friend request over steam when I get a chance if you want to take a look at the .vmf and see if you can get secondary spawns working. Otherwise I was thinking of moving the airlocks at the end of the "hallways" so the exit door is right at the entry way of each level, instead of having the airlocks at end of the previous test and the hallways after.

Quote from Insomnautik on March 28, 2012, 2:42 am

Actually, i figured out how to get the quick respawns working so I posted the update.

Quote from Djinndrache on March 29, 2012, 2:13 pm

Great map, not too difficult to execute but it can still take a few times to solve the chambers on the first run on the map.

No blindrun video this time as I playtested it and it's nothing like blind to me